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	<title>Comments on: Cross-browser Ajax-ified online docs</title>
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		<title>By: Asbjørn Ulsberg</title>
		<link>http://eric.extremeboredom.net/2005/11/19/233/comment-page-1#comment-532</link>
		<dc:creator>Asbjørn Ulsberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I like AJAX a lot, I do not particularly appreciate how it works (or rather; doesn&#039;t) without JavaScript enabled. AJAX shouldn&#039;t be an excuse lazy web developers can hide behind because they don&#039;t want to, or don&#039;t know how to, create web pages truly accessible, regardless of the technology used to view them and regardless of the person who views them and their handicap (if any).

Google, for example, will have major problems accessing a web page that has links with href&#039;s that point to JavaScript functions. That is not good accessibility. And it&#039;s not necessary either. If this is how the AJAX.NET framework is built, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s good to build anything on it, since it won&#039;t be accessible without a highly modern web browser with JavaScript enabled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I like AJAX a lot, I do not particularly appreciate how it works (or rather; doesn&#8217;t) without JavaScript enabled. AJAX shouldn&#8217;t be an excuse lazy web developers can hide behind because they don&#8217;t want to, or don&#8217;t know how to, create web pages truly accessible, regardless of the technology used to view them and regardless of the person who views them and their handicap (if any).</p>
<p>Google, for example, will have major problems accessing a web page that has links with href&#8217;s that point to JavaScript functions. That is not good accessibility. And it&#8217;s not necessary either. If this is how the AJAX.NET framework is built, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s good to build anything on it, since it won&#8217;t be accessible without a highly modern web browser with JavaScript enabled.</p>
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		<title>By: Yves Reynhout</title>
		<link>http://eric.extremeboredom.net/2005/11/19/233/comment-page-1#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator>Yves Reynhout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now if only we could edit the missing documentation and do a postback to the server to have it updated.
And then abstract the whole thing so we can reuse this for our own libraries...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now if only we could edit the missing documentation and do a postback to the server to have it updated.<br />
And then abstract the whole thing so we can reuse this for our own libraries&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://eric.extremeboredom.net/2005/11/19/233/comment-page-1#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That really does look slick. Great work Eric!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That really does look slick. Great work Eric!</p>
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		<title>By: FireRabbit</title>
		<link>http://eric.extremeboredom.net/2005/11/19/233/comment-page-1#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>FireRabbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strike&gt;reflog - Hey, looks like its erroring for me too. I&#039;ll try to have it fixed by
the end of the day.&lt;/strike&gt; Fixed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strike>reflog &#8211; Hey, looks like its erroring for me too. I&#8217;ll try to have it fixed by<br />
the end of the day.</strike> Fixed!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Tauberer</title>
		<link>http://eric.extremeboredom.net/2005/11/19/233/comment-page-1#comment-503</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Tauberer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, excellent.  Can we get this running on go-mono.com, or else can we direct the Mono website&#039;s link to docs to your site?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, excellent.  Can we get this running on go-mono.com, or else can we direct the Mono website&#8217;s link to docs to your site?</p>
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		<title>By: KillerKiwi</title>
		<link>http://eric.extremeboredom.net/2005/11/19/233/comment-page-1#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>KillerKiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some Components that I find come in handy

DotNetOpenMail
http://dotnetopenmail.sourceforge.net/

Ajax.Net
http://ajax.schwarz-interactive.de/csharpsample/default.aspx

Neat Upload
http://www.brettle.com/neatupload

Log4Net
http://logging.apache.org/log4net/

SharpMimeTools
http://anmar.eu.org/projects/sharpmimetools/

A library of where to find controls like this would be very cool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some Components that I find come in handy</p>
<p>DotNetOpenMail<br />
<a href="http://dotnetopenmail.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow">http://dotnetopenmail.sourceforge.net/</a></p>
<p>Ajax.Net<br />
<a href="http://ajax.schwarz-interactive.de/csharpsample/default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://ajax.schwarz-interactive.de/csharpsample/default.aspx</a></p>
<p>Neat Upload<br />
<a href="http://www.brettle.com/neatupload" rel="nofollow">http://www.brettle.com/neatupload</a></p>
<p>Log4Net<br />
<a href="http://logging.apache.org/log4net/" rel="nofollow">http://logging.apache.org/log4net/</a></p>
<p>SharpMimeTools<br />
<a href="http://anmar.eu.org/projects/sharpmimetools/" rel="nofollow">http://anmar.eu.org/projects/sharpmimetools/</a></p>
<p>A library of where to find controls like this would be very cool</p>
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		<title>By: reflog</title>
		<link>http://eric.extremeboredom.net/2005/11/19/233/comment-page-1#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>reflog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 20:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>getting it, still...
http://docs.gotmono.net/display.aspx?url=ecma%3a%2f%2fgo%3flink%3dM%253aIPod.Playlist.InsertSong%2528int%252cIPod.Song%2529
Server error in &#039;/&#039; application
Not found
Description: Error processing request.

Error Message: HTTP 404. Not found</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>getting it, still&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://docs.gotmono.net/display.aspx?url=ecma%3a%2f%2fgo%3flink%3dM%253aIPod.Playlist.InsertSong%2528int%252cIPod.Song%2529" rel="nofollow">http://docs.gotmono.net/display.aspx?url=ecma%3a%2f%2fgo%3flink%3dM%253aIPod.Playlist.InsertSong%2528int%252cIPod.Song%2529</a><br />
Server error in &#8216;/&#8217; application<br />
Not found<br />
Description: Error processing request.</p>
<p>Error Message: HTTP 404. Not found</p>
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		<title>By: reflog</title>
		<link>http://eric.extremeboredom.net/2005/11/19/233/comment-page-1#comment-490</link>
		<dc:creator>reflog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 09:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi.
looks great, but seems like some pages are missing?
GLib-&gt;Argv-&gt;Members brings:

Server error in &#039;/&#039; application
Not found
Description: Error processing request.

Error Message: HTTP 404. Not found</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi.<br />
looks great, but seems like some pages are missing?<br />
GLib-&gt;Argv-&gt;Members brings:</p>
<p>Server error in &#8216;/&#8217; application<br />
Not found<br />
Description: Error processing request.</p>
<p>Error Message: HTTP 404. Not found</p>
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		<title>By: Foole</title>
		<link>http://eric.extremeboredom.net/2005/11/19/233/comment-page-1#comment-489</link>
		<dc:creator>Foole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That absolutely rocks.

I was about to say it needed a way to direct someone else to whatever page I was looking at, but then I saw the &quot;Link to this document&quot; button.  Excellent work.

This computer is kinda slow, so the ajax version will probably be faster than monodoc for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That absolutely rocks.</p>
<p>I was about to say it needed a way to direct someone else to whatever page I was looking at, but then I saw the &#8220;Link to this document&#8221; button.  Excellent work.</p>
<p>This computer is kinda slow, so the ajax version will probably be faster than monodoc for me.</p>
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